SPEAKER_00 0:03

Hello and welcome to the No Rush Collective Podcast. My name is Georgia. I am joined by the beautiful Brittany Lucas, who's beautiful. Beautiful. Who's going to tell us about the story of when we were trying to purchase the chairs for the podcast and how she embarrassed all of us at the lazy boy store.

SPEAKER_01 0:20

We've actually got a couple of good stories about purchasing things for the podcast. Oh, we can break it up.

SPEAKER_00 0:24

You can get like a little sub in every single podcast, like a little sprinkle of the embarrassment that goes through our lives. Behind the scenes. Anyway.

SPEAKER_01 0:34

So we obviously went shopping for these chairs. Um, a couple of nights before, my boyfriend makes music and he got me to sing Hannah Montana, he could be the one, in to his phone, and he remixed it for me. Can you give us a um demonstration of what the song sounds like, please? He could be the one. Thanks. And I literally say it exactly like that too. He could be the one, which honestly sounds fucking fantastic. Next Hannah Montana. Anyway, um, I had this remix on my phone, and we were looking for these chairs, and we went into Lazy Boy, and there was this couch, and it was like front and center in the middle of the store, and we were like, oh my god, look at that couch. And we already sat on it. We went and sat on it, and then the sales lady came over. She's like, Oh, these are all the features. One of them is Bluetooth, and you can connect to it and play whatever, or like I assume you'd probably connect your TV to it. Anyway, um, she's like, Yeah, give it a go. And so I connected my phone, and the first thing that popped up for me to play was my Hannah Montana remix. So I went with it and I played it. Daniel and Georgia were like looking at each other, like, actually, what the hell is going on? I I was I found it hilarious. Georgia loved it. And the sales lady literally did not bat an eye.

SPEAKER_00 1:58

She turns it up. Yeah. But just imagine, it's like it's dead quiet in the store. And all of a sudden she's like, play this, play this, like, do whatever you want. And it goes one, two, three, play.

SPEAKER_01 2:07

And it just goes, Also, the fact that I couldn't remember half of the lyrics as well. So there's like total nothing, no lyrics for like aspects. And then there's bits where I like would forget the lyrics, I'd be like, that's all I've got. And then I'd be like breaking into the next chorus. Yeah, playing it um full volume out of a couch in the um Lazy Boy Deneiden store.

SPEAKER_00 2:31

Anyway, if anyone out there knows that lady that was working at the Lazy Boy store that day, we love her.

SPEAKER_01 2:37

Yeah. I just think it's hilarious that she literally didn't bat night. It was like a normal Thursday for her.

SPEAKER_00 2:42

Yeah. Well, she was saying that she listens to Metallica through that couch sometimes, and I thought that's a vibe. Yeah. Like I really wanted to buy a couch off her.

SPEAKER_01 2:50

Yeah. For context, there was literally nobody else in the store. Yeah. And I imagine when she listens to Metallica through the couch, there's also nobody else in the store. No. Great lady though. Yeah. Shout out to her.

SPEAKER_00 3:01

We need to find her. Um, anyway, let's get back on topic of no rush. Yeah. Um, so we're gonna talk all things health, fitness, nutrition, well-being, find what health means on your own timeline with no rush. Very uh soft and sticky wellness, we like to call it. Soft and sticky. Yeah. That was very ASMR of you.

unknown 3:18

Soft and sticky.

SPEAKER_00 3:21

You're gonna enjoy that, Daniel. Um, today we're gonna talk about the most dangerous nutrition advice that you have ever been given. And hot topic, but I mean, I think I've got a really strong opinion, and that opinion is also correct.

SPEAKER_01 3:37

We talked about that in the last podcast that George's opinion's always right.

SPEAKER_00 3:41

Yeah. Turns out if you make your own podcast, your opinion can just always be right. Yeah. Crazy that. Um, anyway, I need you guys to picture this. You've been good all day. You uh had a clean breakfast, you uh skipped the muffins that were given out to you at work because you're trying to be good. Um, and then it came round to lunch, and then you had the meal-prepped salad that you made last night. Um you've eaten yeah, you've eaten leaves and like some fruit and oats, and then you go home and you uh cook dinner and you eat dinner with your family or whoever. And then after dinner, you're sitting on the couch watching TV, and then you eat the entire pantry from top to bottom, and you sit there thinking, I am a horrific waste of space. I hate myself because I'm so I have no self-control. It's all my fault. I have no willpower. And then you go, that's okay. I'm gonna try again tomorrow, or I'm gonna try again on Monday, and then you go to sleep and you rinse and repeat the same cycle. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:47

Or I don't know if you George might have already had this later planned for later in the how dare you go later into my past. Or you get halfway through the packet of biscuits and you're like, well, bugger it. I'm already halfway through. I have to finish them. And then tomorrow I can start fresh and there's no packet of biscuits, so I I can't eat them tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00 5:07

Yeah. Or another good example, um the the saying no to the muffin. Actually, I can't have a muffin on my work desk because then I'm gonna eat all the whole muffin. I'm gonna eat 12 different muffins. Like, that's a problem.

SPEAKER_01 5:18

Call that, call it out. If you're listening and not watching, when Georgia said that just before, I pouted because that is sad. Muffins going around the office and you don't have one.

SPEAKER_00 5:30

Because you're trying to eat clean and be good. But then you say no to it, and everyone else in the office is like, wow, you're so amazing. Like, that's so good of you. You're such a, you know, health queen. Yeah. You're just reinforcing it just.

SPEAKER_01 5:40

Wow, I wish I had I wish I had self-control like you. Little do they know, and then go home and eat the entire pantry.

SPEAKER_00 5:46

Yeah.

unknown 5:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:47

And I feel like it's probably speaking to a lot of people on who who listen or We've been there. Me and Georgia, both of us. And they've done that. Two whole blocks of wood because cream milk every single day. Back when it was a lot cheaper, so it didn't cost an arm and a little bit. You can't afford to do that now. No. Yeah. If not, if all else fails, just wait for the cost of living to get too expensive. 100%. And then that'll like cut your budget down significantly. Um anyway, we're gonna dive into the surface of um this whole behavior pattern. And I like to call it um a restrict relapse cycle. You can hear it called binge and restrict cycle, but I think differentiating between binge eating disorder versus an everyday restrict and relapse cycle is really important because there's a spectrum. And if you have binge eating disorder, you should probably go and get that clinically evaluated. So a little bit of difference. Restrict and relapse cycle is what we're calling it today, just to make it a little bit easier. But if you need help, go get help. Yeah, please. Please. If you saw me looking directly down the camera, I'd miss that if you weren't on the podcast uh video. Anyway, um diet culture has convinced us that eating less is best. That food has a moral compass. That if you eat a leaf of kale, you are a goddess that is going to heaven because you're so good. And if you eat a cookie, you are going to hell. Yep. Full stop. Any thoughts on that, Britt? Or just I in agreement.

SPEAKER_01 7:16

Yeah. I was honestly just thinking about the um ticket to heaven that I found under the door of the Pilates studio the other day. That's where my brain went. Yeah, whole nother story. Anyway. Sorry, what's the question? Share points? Um, yeah, no, completely agree. Um Yep, I've lost my train of thought. You continue. That's okay. Danny edit you out anyway.

SPEAKER_00 7:41

Yeah. Um I think we have a way of thinking around food that's conditioned us to think that eating less is best. And that way we wake up in the morning and we think I need to have a small breakfast or I need to eat 110% clean all of the time. And that is where the issue lies. Because you if you come at it with a hundred percent approach of I need to do everything perfect, you have intentionally restricted yourself. And the one thing we can guarantee after a restriction is that there will be a relapse, you will eat a whole bunch of different food and you'll feel like crap. And then after that relapse, there will be a restrict because that happens. Yeah. So this cycle continuously happens every day to a lot of people. Yeah. And sometimes you wouldn't even notice it. No. Like if you if you're like, oh, I come home and um I just reach for sugary foods in the pantry because I'm hungry and I feel like I need to do that, that is a restrict relapse cycle.

SPEAKER_01 8:32

Yeah. I definitely like I feel like I've worked pretty well on this sort of thing. I definitely still have those tendencies. It's common.

SPEAKER_00 8:41

But I think catching yourself in the cycle and being able to pull yourself out is really important.

SPEAKER_01 8:45

Yeah, that's the difference. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:46

Yeah. Because a lot of people can't recognize the pattern and then can't get themselves out of the loop. Yeah. And like speaking for someone who was pretty deep in that loop. Like, if you don't know me and my background and where I come from, hello, I used to eat two blocks of Woodaker's creamy milk chocolate every single day at around about four o'clock. And I would be, I was studying nutrition. I was literally I think I was in my third year of my nutrition degree, and I thought I was an absolute failure. Um, and I was in a behavior change paper at the time, and I remember sitting in a circle with a whole bunch of people, and our lecturer, um, I she's a beautiful soul, I loved her. Um, she went round the whole group and she was like, I want you to pick a specific I want you to pick a specific behavior with your nutrition, and I want you to target that to make it better or make it go away or whatever. And they went around the group and everyone was like, Oh, you know, I think I do everything well already. Like I'm gonna, I'm gonna look at my sleep or I'm gonna look at my water intake. And I was sitting in the corner, like, oh my god, I eat two blocks. I know exactly what have it I need to do. I was like, I but I can't say this in front of a group of people because I'm too embarrassed because I'm supposed to be like a professional nutritionist against around to Georgia. Yeah, I'm just gonna focus on my water. That's what I said. That is that it's dead ass. That is what I said. It got to me. And I was like, um, you know my water intake. Yeah. And then I ate up my lecture that night, and I was like, hi. I need a lot of chocolate. Every single night I have two blocks. I know it's the problem, and I know this is what you want me to target. Um, and so she she basically was like, Yes, do that. I will support you. Um, and then I told my whole class, and they were actually really supportive, and it wasn't that big of a deal anyway.

SPEAKER_01 10:23

And honestly, who knows? Perhaps somebody else in the circle actually also had something that they wanted to work on and did the exact same thing as what Georgia did and just said, Oh yeah, my water. Who knows? And that's tea. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:36

And I was brave. You were brave. Good job. Yeah, it was kind of scary. And look at you now. I know. We had to do a whole bunch of different um behavior change techniques, like finding mechanisms of actions of behaviors, and it was all this psychology, which I could dive so deep into because I there's this like massive tool about it, and I completely nerd out on it, but I'm not gonna do that because if you're here just to hear about what we think our biggest issue is with food, then you know. Uh anyway, um, I tried three different things that I could change. And the first one was just like eating less and less chocolate every single day. Spoiler alert, didn't work, hated myself. Um, my reflective field notes were that I am a depressed sack of shit. Um like I can't do this. I'm gonna pull out of nutrition and not be a nutritionist anymore. Yeah. So fail, didn't work. Um, the other one was I'm just not gonna have chocolate in my house. Spoiler alert, it also didn't work. Like, you can't you can't fake that. Imagine having no chocolate in my house and still wanting it. Like that did not work for me. And I understand it can work for some people, but then it actually works for me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:38

Like if I've got a a a food that like I struggle to stop eating, if I don't buy it, I don't think about it. Yeah. Whereas if I don't buy it, it's all you think about.

SPEAKER_00 11:48

It's all I think about. It is literally all I want. It's just I can't stop thinking about it until I've eaten it and I've satisfied that craving. Yeah. Um, and I think because I was only told, oh, eat less of it or just say no, didn't work. Um, and then I just felt like I was a complete failure and that I need more willpower, I need more discipline, all this kind of shit that just wasn't true. Yeah. Whereas when I actually learned how to stop the restriction cycle in the first place, that was when my whole reflection on how I was eating chocolate completely changed. So I would start incorporating chocolate at every single meal, and it was always Whitaker's cream milk because that was like my whole crux. Like still the fave. Yeah. Oh, yeah. If you ever are stuck for a gift idea for Georgia, Whitaker's cream milk. At all points in time, I have six blocks in my house. Don't tell James, because I do actually hide them from him. And there's good reason for that because if I leave a block in his sight, he will slowly eat it, and that's fine. He's entitled to eat chocolate, he's allowed to enjoy it. I'm not taking that off him. But then you don't have it. I need to know that there are blocks there, otherwise I binge on it. So I specifically hide some, and it's not like a disordered eating pattern of hiding them and eating them in secret. It's just I need to know that they're there so that I don't binge out on chocolate. Yeah. James can buy his own chocolate. He can. But for some reason he always eats mine.

SPEAKER_01 13:06

But that's okay. That's fine. That's that's being a partner is sharing.

SPEAKER_00 13:12

Sharing my chocolate, I don't know about that one. Just sharing everything else. Chocolate's just mine. Um, yeah, I'm not, I'm not, I don't really share that often when it comes to that. Chocolate, chocolate ice cream, anything that's chocolate in it, it's mine. Yeah. But also, like, as nutritionist, everyone thinks that I only eat like salad leaves and chicken breast and rice. Could never be me. I just ate cream milk before coming into this podcast. So but I didn't binge on it, and that's the difference. Incorporating it throughout my whole day changed the whole perspective that I had on things because it that's how I stopped my restrict relapse cycle with a very specific behaviour. But yet we still see constant all the time restricting all their food and then relapsing, usually in secret and not telling everyone and then feeling like crap. Yeah. And if someone like that comes and sees me about nutrition, what do I do about this and the fact that I eat all of this? Because first I have to build the trust and make sure that they're comfortable telling me that. Because it is a massive thing. Like me coming out to everyone and saying coming out to everyone and saying that I was eating this much chocolate in a room full of nutritionists who could have the could have judged me was like a massive thing. So I can understand how someone else is scared to tell me that. Um, but making sure that they have that conversation. And then I'm not actually gonna look at, oh, you need to be doing this for your breakfast, lunch, and dinner and give them like a meal plan. I'm gonna look at why are you having this binge later on the day? We need to be doing something earlier on to prevent prevent the restriction happening in the first place. And whether that is something like me incorporating creamy milk chocolate into every single meal, whether that's more making sure you've got a balance of protein, carbs and fats at your meals and making sure you snack, like when you're offered that muffin at 10:30 a.m. at your desk job, eat the muffin. Eat the muffin, especially if it looks good. Yeah. Because then you're not gonna have a binge cycle later on in the day or later on in the week. Like some people, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, that's their binge days. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:07

Why don't what like why not just eat a muffin every day? And then you don't have to eat all six muffins on Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

SPEAKER_00 15:14

And then you get to enjoy it for the rest of your life. Like the muffin is never gonna be off the cards. You never have to be in a diet or a headspace where you're not allowed to eat a muffin. Exactly. It's just a muffin. It's it it's just a muffin, it's not gonna send you to hell.

SPEAKER_01 15:30

And you shouldn't feel bad about it.

SPEAKER_00 15:32

No.

SPEAKER_01 15:33

Which I know is easier said than done.

SPEAKER_00 15:34

Yeah. It but I think this is the whole way of thinking is that diet culture makes us think that we have to be pure, moral, good, clean with our food. And it's put that kind of compass in the measure with what we're eating to if you're a good person.

SPEAKER_01 15:50

I actually I see this um trend on TikTok a lot. And it's related to running, and they'll like stick post-it notes up on the wall. And it'll be easy run, tempo run, long run. Yeah. I've seen that one. And then um it'll go like, you know, like week after week, this easy run, tempo long run, long run. Um, and they'll have it like all the way down the wall. Um, and then they take off one random easy run. One random tempo run, one random long run, whatever. And then they talk about how it's just consistency. Missing that run doesn't matter. It's the same thing with food. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:25

Eating that muffin doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_01 16:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:28

Literally in the long run. Yeah. And like I really want to be the kind of person who can have like when I have kids one day, to then role model that relationship with food. Like a neutral relationship. It's just food.

SPEAKER_01 16:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:42

It's necessary. I put a video on my Instagram. Um, I'm not out here killing babies. I'm not eating chocolate for breakfast. Yum. It's not that big of a deal.

SPEAKER_01 16:54

I do that every Easter and every Christmas without fail. As you should.

SPEAKER_00 16:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:58

It's not that deep.

SPEAKER_00 16:59

Oh, but some people think that it is. And yeah. I like to think that what would happen if we flipped the cycle in the way that we think about eating from what can I take away to what can I add? And I think that's the biggest change that we can have to prevent these cycles from happening and to prevent us thinking that less is best. So instead of I need to eat less carbs, or that's a really good one at the moment. Um it's more can I add in um a quality source of protein to each meal? So you've just you've kind of you've done the same thing, but the wording's different. Yeah. Um not saying that carbs are the enemy, but you know, I'm just saying like a psychological change here. Or like instead of uh can I add in two 45-minute workouts a day? If you know what I'm talking about, next episode, um, can I actually park a block further away from work? Yeah. And just walk an extra couple hundred steps to get into work and back. Because that is so realistic and sustainable and way more accessible for most people.

SPEAKER_01 18:07

Yeah. It's literally that easy. But then also at the same time, going back to the progress. If for whatever reason you wake up one day and you're like, man, I just I have to w park right outside work, what do you think? You can do it.

SPEAKER_00 18:20

It's one day. Yeah, do it. It's not that big of a deal. It doesn't make you a good or a bad person. It just means that you're prioritizing like your health and your wellness on that specific day.

SPEAKER_01 18:30

Or if you're like running like, no, today I'm parking outside work.

SPEAKER_00 18:33

Yeah.

unknown 18:34

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:36

Nothing has to be like hard and fast or intense. And but then again, we have like this whole perspective online where it's it needs to be done hard. Yeah. You have to 75 hard. You have to do something intense. You have to cut out everything. You have to do this amount of exercise. You have to never eat chocolate again for the rest of your life, which by the way, would be a very depressing life to live. Yeah, that's a bit sad. Um, and that's what defines health and wellness. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:04

And that's like the opposite of that is exactly what we're trying to do with No Rush. Yeah. Is like, you know, yeah, it's in the name. It's in the like the value of like soft wellness. It's just no hard and fast rules. Just like plodding along, continuous progress. Plodding along one step at a time. One step at a time. And if one of those steps is smaller than all of the other steps, whoop-de-doo.

SPEAKER_00 19:33

Can you say that again so that Daniel can make a like little thing out of it? Whoop-de-doo. Beautiful. That'll be the intro to the podcast this time around. Whoop-de-doo. Yeah. Taking taking the pressure. I think taking the pressure and the privilege away from health, nutrition, wellness, fitness, everything is such like a massive step forward. And it's saying eat less, move more, which by the way is our government guidelines for nutrition and fitness and are important because we are in like an obesogenic environment. But saying that as like a one-on-one approach, I think takes all of the it basically your it takes all the personal approach away. It's like you're not a person who has feelings or like a headspace around food or anything. Just eat less, move more. And giving that advice to most people is actually not correct because it puts them back in a restrict relapse cycle all over again. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 20:27

So like it's all well and good for them to say that as uh like on a country level, but actually individually. Yeah. It can't be looked at like that.

SPEAKER_00 20:38

Yeah, flip the script. What can you add, not what can you take away. Yeah. Or um being able to have any food in your house, just free will. Like I mean, you'd be able to do that if you had like a a weakness food because you're not necessarily thinking about it all the time. It's just there.

SPEAKER_01 20:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:58

Exactly. My six blocks of chocolate. Yeah. And my three that are hidden. That we don't tell anyone. James is listening. James won't listen this far into a podcast. He doesn't have that attention span. Oh, bless him. Um take the power away from food. Chocolate doesn't own me anymore. No. I own it. I own six blocks at any point in time.

SPEAKER_01 21:21

Georgia definitely owns chocolate.

SPEAKER_00 21:23

Yeah. You can never question that. But it used it used to own me. It was the problem. Yeah. And that was when it affected everything. Yeah. And then like the effect that that can have on not only your physical health but your mental health too.

SPEAKER_01 21:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:36

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 21:36

Because, you know, Georgia should be able to eat chocolate and then not write in her journal about how much she hates herself because she ate all that chocolate.

SPEAKER_00 21:46

But working in the health and fitness industry is hard because you have people around you all the time that are hard. That are discipline, motivation, work harder. We all have the same 24 hours in a day. And I think that's a crock of shit.

SPEAKER_01 21:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:59

Yeah. Exactly. And I said what I said. Yeah. I agree. Also, become more responsive to your hunger and fullness cues on that same topic.

SPEAKER_01 22:09

Yeah. That is something I'm not good at. If I am enjoying a meal, my fullness cues out the window.

SPEAKER_00 22:18

Whereas, see, I'm like always, once I get to a seven out of ten, I'm like sick. Yeah. I'm like, if there's some left, I'm putting it back for later. Let's dive in. I just enjoy it. Another episode we can dive into Britt's hunger and fullness cues.

SPEAKER_01 22:32

Actually, Georgia did just have an idea that one day we'll just do a nutrition consult for Britt.

SPEAKER_00 22:38

Which I think is really good.

SPEAKER_01 22:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:40

Yeah. Just make it like an open and honest conversation.

SPEAKER_01 22:43

Honestly, I'll I I have never had a secret in my life, so.

SPEAKER_00 22:48

And this is why we're on a podcast. And this is why I was like, Britt, come on a podcast with me. You'll be perfect to talk about this stuff with. Because you play Hannah Montana remixes. That's just you singing really loud. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:59

Do you know? I used to be a really anxious person. I don't know what happened to her. Gone. Anxiety? Who? Who? Who? Where? Where? That's kind of cool. What happened? Um, oh, this is a story for another day. We could probably actually really dive into the journey here. A whole episode on Britt's anxiety. Yeah, no, because I think that like um it's relevant and I think that it is um it could help other people because yeah, like I was in a rut. Um uh, but long story short, Georgia. And I'm not even joking. Yeah. Like I think meeting Georgia and starting um doing PT sessions with her was like the initial catalyst. Like, obviously, Georgia didn't fix everything. She can't. I have to fix it myself. And I did. But yeah. I'm welling up. Yeah. No, seriously. Oh, if you can, if you're not watching and you're just listening, she's literally headback.

SPEAKER_00 24:04

Wide eyes. Yeah. That's what my nana taught me. Wide eyes make you not cry.

unknown 24:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:08

No, but we can get into that though, because the reason that I I feel like we've gone so off topic.

SPEAKER_00 24:13

It's okay. This is what we're about. We're here to yet and we're in no rush to yet.

SPEAKER_01 24:17

Yeah, we're in no rush. Um, the reason I want to work with Georgia is because what she did for me, I think we can do for other people.

unknown 24:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:29

Um, A V guy, can you put a mic drop sound after that? There you go, Britt just did one for you. Just put that up a little bit louder, thanks. Um, let's summarize this episode and then take note of that for future episode because I think that's a really important topic, and I'd like to hear a lot more about um how amazing I am. Yeah, I'll write notes. Georgia, yeah, I'm sure you would. Yeah, okay, right, awesome, great. Yeah, I'm very up myself. Um, first of all, we have to give a massive sponsor shout out to Walsh and Beck who have allowed us to use their space, their, I mean, equipment, everything. It's just amazing. We wouldn't be able to be doing this podcast right now if it wasn't for them. It would be very low budget without them. Yeah, it'd be probably in my lounge. Yeah. With a bed sheet behind us and like not even microphones, it would probably be phones. So yeah. We've we've upgraded to this, which is really awesome. So we do have to thank them so much for sponsoring us. Now, main points from today. One, food is not always about self-control, willpower, and discipline. Two, less nutritious food choices can be incorporated regularly into your food throughout the whole day. Have creamy milk on your porridge at breakfast. It's not going to kill you. If you want to. Yeah, if you don't want to, that's all good, but I know I want to. Number three, stop giving food a morality complex. Food is not going to send you to heaven or hell.

SPEAKER_01 25:46

There is no good food. There is no bad food. There is good tasting food and bad tasting food.

SPEAKER_00 25:51

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 25:52

But there is no good food or bad food.

SPEAKER_00 25:54

Just more or less nutritious. Yeah. Um, number four, if you were ever in Lazy Boy Toneda, do go and ask the lady if she remembers that crazy woman who played um Hannah Montana. He could be the one, but her singing.

SPEAKER_01 26:07

Yeah, maybe for the outro for this podcast, our AV guy could um put his remix in there.

SPEAKER_00 26:11

Yeah. Or you could just archipelate for us. Sure.

SPEAKER_01 26:21

Oh, I thought she was gonna sing it. Um, yeah, that's the bit that I missed out at first. Oh, yeah, true. Do you remember there's like a whole lot of silence at the start of the because I was like, I don't remember how it starts.

SPEAKER_00 26:31

What? That was really good. Anyway, um, we'll definitely put that in a pocket next episode. Thank you guys so much for listening. Yeah. And cut.